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just you find the more you think you

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know that you really do that's true dr.

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Zaius uh where would we know

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all right higher side chatters you might

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with previous PhD guests that he felt he

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lot about alchemy the expanding Hollow

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Earth the electric universe the Sonora

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Aero Club and a whole lot more in a

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Americans had cultivated because labels

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like hunter-gatherers just don't do them

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justice but we're also going to talk

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Great Spirit there animist outlook and

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the fact that you don't need a huge

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over-the-top HAARP antenna array when

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you got your rain dance down there's a

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lot left unknown about America before

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the colonialists arrived and a lot that

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can help us today if we stop to realize

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the Western Way isn't the only way a man

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who's worked for over a decade in

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high-level industries such as robotics

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chemical systems and alternative energy

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and has been researching weird related

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threads even longer in our second

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conversation as we work through the

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powers of the Captain Planet team my

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friend and yours Shimon janilla welcome

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back to DHD Captain Planet Center hero

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digging deep on that reference yeah so

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I'm pumped man I think this is going to

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be awesome you bring up some interesting

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ideas I don't hear about nearly enough

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from the big names an alternative

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research and you're so great about

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actually having sources that strengthen

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the various cases you come here to make

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so I am all about it and I suppose the

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best entry point here is the state that

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the Europeans found America and when

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they got here it's quite different than

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some one might expect but I'm also

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curious how this became of interest to

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you when so many people just take it for

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granted the things were largely the same

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without the buildings

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so maybe tell us how the subject got on

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your radar and how we should start to

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reframe pre colonialist America well

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Native American outlook and I was I mean

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this is kind of a silly thing but you

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know as far as a YMCA Indian guides the

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kids all right so I kind of got

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introduced a little bit to like Native

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American culture there and I actually

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met a few Native Americans through it

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but you know making best at a vinyl

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isn't quite the same painting and stuff

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like that this is deliberate actually

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of conservation and preservation are on

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the the national parks because it's kind

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of an imitation to some degree like for

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so long things were so suppressed that

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as practices are kind of being

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introduced it isn't really the full-on

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cultivation of the landscape they used

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doing is so the way that the parks are

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managed it hasn't produced the same

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landscape that was here when the

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very different landscape it's choked

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things like that there's there's a lot

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of nutrients and energy that bound up in

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that material right so if that has been

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released periodically through burning it

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that is exactly why California has these

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huge wildfire problems is because there

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kind of nerf and then it just when it

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the thing is that the way the wildfire

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system is managed today is you know

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suppression primarily there's there's a

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few controlled burns here and there but

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burns it's May

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depression and when you do that you end

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landscape so I mean even without all the

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other things that we've done to damage

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our landscape and damage our wildlife

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it to be in its most abundant

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configuration means that there's a lot

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of life that just can't reach above a

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certain threshold and we're seeing a lot

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of a lot of different forms of whitening

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choked out because of it hmm yeah I mean

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parks is almost like more of a History

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our best glimpse at how it looked before

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the Western civilization took over but I

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actual conditions when the Colonials did

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arrive what were the Native Americans

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doing to actually engineer abundance and

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how different did it really look well

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passages absolutely okay early European

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explorers and settlers were universally

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impressed not just by California's

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diversity but also the sheer abundance

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1786 as the land of inexpressible

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fertility and expressible fertility

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that's a great term I got to say here

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Jefferson may feel the white man who

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came to live with the Chui nuit yoga in

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the San Joaquin Valley in 1850 when just

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a boy vividly described as overflowing

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abundance of wildlife thousands of

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band-tailed pigeons came in place that

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would sometimes shut out the Sun like a

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cloud they filed into the nearest trees

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where there was not a single place for

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another pigeon to fit so I mean we don't

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rivers and the streams I mean they just

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aren't as abundant as they used to be

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waters lost a lot right

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it may be chemically fit for consumption

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things like that it's not that's not the

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pharmaceuticals and rusty pipes and

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fracking but I know you're saying about

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the energetic properties of water I'm

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sure we'll talk about that in a future

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water focused episode but you've sent me

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several videos of people who've

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understood these properties and built

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devices to maximize the energetic

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properties of water with vortexes and

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really cool stuff but I guess the larger

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point here is that we think of ourselves

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to get the most out of them we're just

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wildly inefficient we have a beat it

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into submission kind of approach and it

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technical and less advanced than when it

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was all just left to the quote-unquote

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savages yeah I mean that the work of

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viktor schauberger shows distinctly that

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the natural Water Course has has an

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a lot of kids water management

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principles should be integrated into

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forestry management things like that is

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being done places like Switzerland

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actually so well with some ones on it

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doing something to the water that when

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you Dam it up or reroute it or stock

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pilot and silos it just isn't the same

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maybe there is something to that but to

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mind blowing stuff just like you said

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there were descriptions of flocks of

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birds so big they blocked out the Sun

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squirrel could travel from the east

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coast to the Mississippi River without

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touching the ground because the trees

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that salmon ran up the major river

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increase from what is now Smith River on

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the north of the camel River on the

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let me against the current to return

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near where they were born

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hundreds of lesser creeps carry the

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lifeblood of millions upon millions with

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salmon right at 6000 miles of spawning

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habitat we have nothing close to

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excellent Joaquin Miller describes ahead

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to Sacramento as a silver sheet because

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the salmon were so abundant he has seen

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a stream so filled with salmon that it

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was impossible to force a horse across

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the current a white man stays in the in

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the early 1900s so you could load wagons

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with salmon that got sold on a mad river

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a little flows near our kata you could

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get salmon with pitchforks and fork them

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onto a bank so I mean just when the

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Europeans arrived they they were looking

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gardeners who had cultivated the

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landscape thinking that oh well this was

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just placed here by God for our manifest

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destiny and all this stuff right it

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really does tie into that doesn't it oh

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definitely I mean the whole outlook on

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what was here was flavored by that

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the church propaganda that was I was

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really driving people to feel like they

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needed submission eyes you know to

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basically destroy the cultures right but

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when they came here they saw this

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abundance and when they looked at what

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the people who lived here

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we're doing they though they're just

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there diggers they just dig in the

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ground and root around they don't really

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contribute anything they don't have to

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contribute any whole business because

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they just pluck it

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you know there's so many fish they just

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pluck them from the river and there's so

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many deers they just throw rocket and

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how to fall down house it's kind of how

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they looked at it there we go they're

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all lazy because they've got so much of

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God's abundance they don't know what to

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do with it so we're going to come here

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and we're going to make all this plan

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productive that's the way they looked at

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it just like capitalism with anything

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that doesn't fit its own inputs that it

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is something to be exploited of course

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and so to focus on say the fish

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population how do we know that something

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that was engineered instead of just

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random or the way just nature taking its

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course well I mean that just spoke to

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the health of the water and you know I

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mean a thing is that there's a whole

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transpiration cycle that it isn't just

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dependent on rainfall falls and then you

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know water trickles down well the water

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that goes into the ground actually gets

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pulled up by the roots of the plants so

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there's a deeper roots to plants like

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the trees and it helps to raise the

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water Cape and and it also has to do

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with temperature the land as well the

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colder it is the more the water table

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rise up and be accessible to plants

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right on you know that just as the help

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of the surrounding landscape helps

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increase the water that fell and fed the

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rivers and also that the snowpack wasn't

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infected to say because the temperatures

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are changing now what exactly the

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reasons for that is you know there's a

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lot of debate there's definitely

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contribution from carbon dioxide but the

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models that are put forward by the IPCC

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don't take into account water vapor

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which is the main heat transportation

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system of the world since things like

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I'd be important yeah how does you know

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that

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might impact their models yeah might

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they also say apparently I mean I can't

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verify this but a lot of people are

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saying that all the planets are warming

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not just the earth so that throws into

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question the human component I mean

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there is a definite effect from you know

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the the difference in wavelengths that

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are you know that carbon dioxide and

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methane things like that you know allow

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out and so there there's this definite

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effect yeah but if there's other effects

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that aren't being accounted for them on

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by the models which of course they

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aren't for sure then how correct are

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those models feel just incomplete but in

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terms of in terms of should we stop

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burning fossil fuels absolutely yes yeah

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it's this toxic overall it's toxic it's

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a bad idea right not a good idea to do

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so you know obviously we need to change

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their ways and I you know I don't

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support what Trump proposes of you know

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opening up the oil field everywhere he

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can you know I mean just look at the

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Standing Rock and then there was an oil

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spill near there right where you know

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spilled like hundreds of thousands

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council oil that's just one of us over

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200 and last year's so right that's one

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of the things that upsets me about Trump

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the most glad the TPP is dead but I am a

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little concerned about him going

363
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backwards in energy instead of forwards

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oh he just wants to hand the keys over

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to them so they all come from Rio be

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right on so to get back to Native

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Americans a little bit yeah another

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thing that I had seen I hadn't been able

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to share with you yet but it was talking

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about their hunting practices and it

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wasn't just that they were they weren't

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just hunting at random they were finding

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out what these animals like to eat

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planning it in strategic places and then

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hunting them in that regard so it wasn't

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like they had domesticated animals

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quote-unquote but they definitely had a

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process of hunting that was way more

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skilled and intelligent and included way

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more force

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right then we're led to believe well

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definitely I mean they think of the

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landscape they knew how the land wanted

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to grow they know what plants should be

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in what locations and how they should be

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cultivated and nurtured they did a whole

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host of techniques to cultivate these

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plants they would the primary ones fire

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actually fire allows them to keep down

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pests to keep down diseases to clear out

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old growth to stimulate new growth and

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it was easy to do you know you didn't

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have to apply it manually by hand

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everywhere he went

395
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you just started it and made sure that

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you controlled it and you kept it under

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control

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typically that came about just from the

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fact of doing it periodically enough

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that didn't get out of control but once

401
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the fires were over basically they did

402
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it primarily in the fall because that

403
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way the soil would have some time to

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absorb the nutrients in the next bring

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all the growth would come back and you

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know a lot of the plants would Windex

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have actually died it was just been kind

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of pruned back by the fire and there'd

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still be a living root bulb or there'd

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be some portion about the ground that

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would still be alive and then it would

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all just grow out and actually the way

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that that this axe is actually very

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similar to what I think the action would

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put the loss for so Malcolm hmm when it

416
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comes to regeneration and life extension

417
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right because the thing is there's

418
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certain there's these cells that are

419
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down at the nodes of the plants and

420
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they're basically undifferentiated cells

421
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or stem cells and these stem cells that

422
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are down at the base of the plant that's

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the place where these new branches come

424
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out and that those new branches are the

425
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ones that the Native Americans and also

426
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the wildlife want because it actually

427
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grows back faster grows back

428
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twelve hundred percent faster than

429
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normal growth and it grows straighter it

430
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doesn't have all these bends in it and

431
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all these branches coming off of it and

432
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it actually resists tests quite as a

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corn

434
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it's basically what they use to make all

435
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their baskets make their houses they

436
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would they're using a kind of fire

437
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coppicing which is a very ancient

438
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technique that goes back to the

439
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Neolithic so you know this has been

440
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known about for hundreds of thousands of

441
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years mm-hmm and I find this so

442
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fascinating a lot more than a

443
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conversation about permaculture might

444
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suggest but I like this approach of

445
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getting the best out of each element

446
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using them as tools and a type of

447
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synergistic way and it seems like they

448
00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:24,330
really engineered actual abundance and

449
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wealth not just a pile of green money in

450
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the bank but we are relaying witness

451
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accounts from their day saying that

452
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flocks of birds blocked out the Sun that

453
00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:34,650
you can't even get a horse across the

454
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damn river because there's too many fish

455
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you can pluck them out with a pitchfork

456
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they also got their foliage on lock -

457
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but this is where a critic might say

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well you're given these people a lot of

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credit but maybe their situation was due

460
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to something like there being a far

461
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lower population at the time that's why

462
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they had so much extra so what would you

463
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say to that well they're just fewer

464
00:20:01,340 --> 00:19:59,430
people here or is that a fallacy well

465
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when you look at the more recent

466
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information I mean a lot of a lot of the

467
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historical data was completely on the

468
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low end right now they're saying between

469
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10 million and hundred million is what

470
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the estimates would be in North America

471
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but I think it's closer to the high end

472
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and maybe even higher the thing is that

473
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there weren't really any accurate

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records and then a lot of people who are

475
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developing those models they were basing

476
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it off of accounts five people who

477
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didn't who weren't really interested in

478
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playing up their crimes to decision

479
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deprived of course it is so

480
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estimates that are on the higher end

481
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seems to make more sense when you look

482
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at the degree to their impact that they

483
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had on Lena on the landscape some of the

484
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more historical accounts rather than

485
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rather than the modeled accounts that

486
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kind of the 19 to 20 countries

487
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right on so the Native Americans they

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had these controlled burns they were

489
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seeing things grow back twelve hundred

490
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percent faster what else were the people

491
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doing to actually affect the environment

492
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around them well they would they would

493
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cultivate the plants they would do

494
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pruning as well as you know the fire

495
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there's also do hand pruning like

496
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between fire burnings they would and

497
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that also helped to regenerate the

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plants and they were doing a lot of

499
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digging because they were able there's

500
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some plants that have tubers and little

501
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corns on them or ribosomes and the more

502
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disturbance you give them the more they

503
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grow and the more little branches or

504
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offshoots of plants or completely

505
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separate plants would break off and

506
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start growing so by doing this

507
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cultivation by giving them this

508
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disturbance whether it be disturbance of

509
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fire disturbance of pruning the

510
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disturbance of digging around the roots

511
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a certain way to stimulate more growth

512
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there they were constantly working

513
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towards improving a core activity of the

514
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landscape and they would see you know I

515
00:22:22,659 --> 00:22:19,220
mean landscape changes over time and

516
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they would as things changed as geo

517
00:22:28,419 --> 00:22:25,609
conditions change they would transplant

518
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different plants for different areas as

519
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they saw fit to help stimulate the

520
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health of that area like if they know

521
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that a certain animal needed a plan they

522
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would plant it there to help that animal

523
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and things like that

524
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hmm and they also they did have some big

525
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cities too right I mean oh I know as you

526
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,139
get into Mexico and Central America

527
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you'll find their step pyramids but even

528
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Cahokia in the middle of the Midwest

529
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was apparently a big city so it's not

530
00:23:01,950 --> 00:22:59,419
just all animal skins and TPS right well

531
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:01,960
I mean that is actually some of the best

532
00:23:08,890 --> 00:23:05,110
estimates of what kind of populations

533
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are coming starting to come out of South

534
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America because the thing is they did

535
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leave behind some structures you know

536
00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:15,350
the thing with a lot of northern

537
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American tribes that they didn't say

538
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:20,150
buying permanent structures there were

539
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some in the south west and things like

540
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that we did but yeah an essential and

541
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southern American I mean in South

542
00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:30,679
America they're starting to do later

543
00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:33,260
surveys with planes and they're finding

544
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that the buildings that are just

545
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overgrown that they just thought of the

546
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jungle is vast it's huge

547
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it's like if I remember correctly

548
00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:47,750
something like 60% for the landmass of

549
00:23:58,270 --> 00:23:53,150
Brazil is not he grown over cities Sam

550
00:23:59,710 --> 00:23:58,280
it's it's crazy how much there is down

551
00:24:02,440 --> 00:23:59,720
there that hasn't been looked at yet

552
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:02,450
baby I mean really they're just kind of

553
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:05,090
like barely scratch the surface by just

554
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:08,150
doing later so far that just gives them

555
00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:10,850
an indication what's there but actually

556
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:13,280
I mean there's potentially hundreds of

557
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:15,919
years with an archaeology there mmm yeah

558
00:24:19,690 --> 00:24:17,900
seems like there's a lot of lost threads

559
00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:19,700
waiting to be rediscovered there for

560
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:22,790
sure so to maybe move on from their

561
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,970
actions and get more into their

562
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:27,440
philosophy of being part of the

563
00:24:31,810 --> 00:24:29,270
environment rather than mastering it or

564
00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:31,820
conquering it obviously quite different

565
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:33,830
than the Western approach but what more

566
00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:36,049
can be said to help us try to understand

567
00:24:41,470 --> 00:24:38,780
their way or get into their head space

568
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:41,480
about these kind of things well it was

569
00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:44,360
kind of a use model you know like if

570
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:46,190
you're using it and you're using

571
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:48,530
properly you want just you know abusing

572
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:51,049
it then you're allowed to can continues

573
00:24:56,530 --> 00:24:54,320
but if other people need access to it

574
00:24:59,470 --> 00:24:56,540
you're expected to give them to give

575
00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,480
them access food I mean reasonable you

576
00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:02,240
know it's like if you have you know

577
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:04,070
garden and you have some friends coming

578
00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:05,970
over and they want some

579
00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:08,280
ovens or some some patients or whatever

580
00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:11,100
you have you know you can share with a

581
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:14,550
no problem most plants give more than

582
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:17,490
enough for you know the people if it's a

583
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:20,490
single family one tree can give them

584
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:22,170
more than what they need for any any

585
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:25,530
type of groceries so there's plenty to

586
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:28,890
go around when people when people know

587
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:32,010
how to share properly right well that's

588
00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:33,930
interesting because we're sort of taught

589
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:36,180
or shown depictions of these tribes as

590
00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:38,970
very warlike in most cases and I'm sure

591
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,470
that's exaggerated but do we get any

592
00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:42,720
indication of what it was really like or

593
00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:44,760
if they had the issues of ego and

594
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:47,190
typical human bickering descending into

595
00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:49,770
war with their neighbors versus some

596
00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:52,200
kind of peaceful coexistence in the land

597
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:54,300
of abundance like can you clarify things

598
00:25:59,120 --> 00:25:57,330
in this area for us at all well in

599
00:26:02,090 --> 00:25:59,130
California we have we have some of the

600
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,100
best records is that because you know

601
00:26:07,910 --> 00:26:05,120
there were people out exploring here

602
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:07,920
before there was a lot of interference

603
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:09,930
like things things started to happen on

604
00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:11,970
these go slightly quicker but there's

605
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,020
records of groups where basically if

606
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:18,720
another tribe needs something they would

607
00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:20,250
come and they would ask for permission

608
00:26:23,870 --> 00:26:22,140
to go on to the other tribes land and

609
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:23,880
then the other tribe would either let

610
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:25,770
them go onto their land or they would

611
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:27,720
just gathered what they wanted and

612
00:26:34,340 --> 00:26:32,400
provide it to them so and I mean even

613
00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:34,350
when you I'm sure you've heard of the

614
00:26:39,770 --> 00:26:36,270
term counting - uh-huh

615
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:39,780
and I mean that's basically a ritualized

616
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:42,210
from a warfare it's kind of like you

617
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:46,020
know what we think of a sports team but

618
00:26:52,460 --> 00:26:50,310
it was on more of a ritual level so that

619
00:26:55,550 --> 00:26:52,470
was the preferential means settling

620
00:26:59,270 --> 00:26:55,560
disputes was a ritualized warfare

621
00:27:01,280 --> 00:26:59,280
interesting but things could dissolve

622
00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:01,290
from there and then you know there were

623
00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:03,480
also instances where there were

624
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:05,640
power-hungry Chiefs who tried to rally

625
00:27:11,150 --> 00:27:09,090
everybody into a you know real war and

626
00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:11,160
killing a lot of people and sometimes

627
00:27:16,779 --> 00:27:14,190
they would just wake up one day and find

628
00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:16,789
that the entire village is gone

629
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:20,820
we've gone overnight yeah question I

630
00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:22,980
think something that perhaps we should

631
00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:27,059
do with our use at some point mm-hmm we

632
00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:28,830
don't need you fair enough

633
00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:31,830
you know the only real person I've heard

634
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:34,950
talking a lot about pre-columbian

635
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:37,230
America is Graham Hancock when he talks

636
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:39,480
about his war god series of course

637
00:27:44,539 --> 00:27:41,760
that's a little soft more southern he's

638
00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:44,549
talking about the Aztecs but he paints a

639
00:27:50,659 --> 00:27:47,990
picture of their cultures like lining up

640
00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:50,669
thousands of slaves on the step pyramid

641
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:52,500
to climb the top and lay down and get

642
00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:54,600
their hearts pulled out and eaten I'm

643
00:27:59,960 --> 00:27:56,520
not I'm not talking about it

644
00:28:01,519 --> 00:27:59,970
right right I just you know they're I

645
00:28:03,620 --> 00:28:01,529
don't know where the dividing lines were

646
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:03,630
between Native Americans and that every

647
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:05,970
soldier is different but you know I mean

648
00:28:11,659 --> 00:28:09,240
on the whole but I mean there were

649
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:11,669
definitely places where there were there

650
00:28:20,110 --> 00:28:17,250
were more pressures on on them but the

651
00:28:23,419 --> 00:28:20,120
thing is that I mean in that case it was

652
00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:23,429
there's there's some there's some tacos

653
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:25,470
that possibly being due to you know

654
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:27,210
droughts and things like that they

655
00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:30,809
started to become some savage in the way

656
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:33,990
that they were dealing with the with the

657
00:28:40,669 --> 00:28:37,919
hardship or the cultural discontinuity

658
00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:40,679
that was going on at the time I mean I

659
00:28:45,710 --> 00:28:43,230
read about that when I was a kid and it

660
00:28:48,289 --> 00:28:45,720
scared me I mean it was it was really

661
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:48,299
horrific what they did to people right I

662
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,100
was cutting their hearts out and things

663
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:52,559
like them but but that does kind of get

664
00:28:57,049 --> 00:28:55,140
to the next little thing I was going to

665
00:28:59,539 --> 00:28:57,059
ask you about is the spiritual elements

666
00:29:02,360 --> 00:28:59,549
in all of this and just the idea of a

667
00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:02,370
tighter connection fear and to the

668
00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:03,750
consciousness of the things in their

669
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:06,059
environment because that is you know

670
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:07,799
when things are good I'm curious what

671
00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:09,510
their relationships like but then it

672
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:10,919
seems like when things are bad that's

673
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:13,770
when the whole society can go off the

674
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:15,510
rails because you're trying to do

675
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:16,980
everything you can think of to appease

676
00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:19,230
some God that you think has an influence

677
00:29:23,299 --> 00:29:20,940
on your environment but as far as the

678
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:23,309
Native Americans and the great building

679
00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:26,490
is scapegoating is a well-worn tradition

680
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:28,440
it is

681
00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:31,380
amen but what can you say about the

682
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:33,150
spiritual elements that you've studied

683
00:29:39,650 --> 00:29:35,150
as far as Native Americans are concerned

684
00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:39,660
well from from the things that I've read

685
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:41,820
it seems like they were interacting with

686
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:43,770
the landscape they were communicating

687
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:46,110
with the spirits of the animals and the

688
00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:49,170
plants and they were they were using the

689
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:52,800
information as they got to develop their

690
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:55,470
agricultural system they would have

691
00:29:59,870 --> 00:29:58,380
visions of a certain herb to use for a

692
00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:59,880
certain condition and they would

693
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,640
continue to use that you know if there

694
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:04,320
was a certain plant or an animal that

695
00:30:11,030 --> 00:30:07,830
wasn't in abundance anymore it was found

696
00:30:14,660 --> 00:30:11,040
to be dying off they would try and have

697
00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:14,670
a spiritual vision to figure out what to

698
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:15,780
do what was wrong

699
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:18,480
this is actually something that comes up

700
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,770
later in the Finch horn community that

701
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:24,720
was established in Britain like a

702
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:28,290
sequence in 1960s or 1970s and they were

703
00:30:33,860 --> 00:30:29,850
doing similar techniques they were

704
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:33,870
basically in like sandy soil and I mean

705
00:30:39,530 --> 00:30:35,940
it was really just horrible place to try

706
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:39,540
and grow anything but this couple and I

707
00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:41,940
think a few of their friends just kind

708
00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:44,190
of settled there and I mean it was just

709
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:46,670
dirt cheap land or something like that

710
00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:49,290
but they were also called fed

711
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:52,830
spiritually so they they settled there

712
00:30:58,370 --> 00:30:55,020
and tried to grow plants and they were

713
00:31:01,100 --> 00:30:58,380
there constantly you know meditating and

714
00:31:03,050 --> 00:31:01,110
trying to commune with with spirits that

715
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:03,060
will guide them in their in their

716
00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:06,810
gardening and before too long I mean the

717
00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:10,260
soil had improved because those advices

718
00:31:17,410 --> 00:31:13,080
they were given they were growing just

719
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:17,420
like showstopping kind of vegetation and

720
00:31:21,850 --> 00:31:20,310
plants and it was the sort of things

721
00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:21,860
where they were they're growing things

722
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:25,590
that were like two or three times which

723
00:31:31,510 --> 00:31:28,410
is he on a commercial farm and this

724
00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:31,520
isn't just the worst sort of you can buy

725
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:34,230
yeah man I love hearing about that

726
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:36,960
garden or that community really

727
00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:38,850
interesting and it's a great case study

728
00:31:42,409 --> 00:31:41,400
for the benefits of developing some sort

729
00:31:44,629 --> 00:31:42,419
of relationship

730
00:31:47,690 --> 00:31:44,639
with local spirits or the consciousness

731
00:31:49,789 --> 00:31:47,700
of non-human things and that animist

732
00:31:51,619 --> 00:31:49,799
paradigm I think there's something to it

733
00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:51,629
and this is something that I got from

734
00:31:55,970 --> 00:31:53,460
Gordon white but he graphed some

735
00:31:58,460 --> 00:31:55,980
cultures of the past by their complexity

736
00:32:00,139 --> 00:31:58,470
and stability I think it is and it does

737
00:32:02,029 --> 00:32:00,149
seem like ones that explored

738
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,039
consciousness and developed a robust

739
00:32:07,489 --> 00:32:04,320
connection and reverence for the spirit

740
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:07,499
world they ranked higher Egyptians of

741
00:32:11,779 --> 00:32:08,970
course were right near the top of the

742
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:11,789
chart but it just made in my mind a

743
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:13,950
great case for the importance of this

744
00:32:20,269 --> 00:32:17,129
magical component in a culture and there

745
00:32:21,950 --> 00:32:20,279
does or there did at least seem to be a

746
00:32:23,899 --> 00:32:21,960
connection between cultures who got

747
00:32:26,869 --> 00:32:23,909
tuned in to these levels to take advice

748
00:32:30,259 --> 00:32:26,879
from the spirits and their successes to

749
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:30,269
some degree well I think so I mean

750
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:32,460
there's definitely something missing

751
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:34,440
from modern society and I think it is

752
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:37,499
this realm of the spiritual to a large

753
00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:40,289
degree I mean even though there are you

754
00:32:47,239 --> 00:32:42,929
know rituals and things like that that

755
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:47,249
are held in modern religion a lot of

756
00:32:50,419 --> 00:32:49,320
them aren't really mystical they aren't

757
00:32:54,499 --> 00:32:50,429
they aren't the sort of thing that's

758
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:54,509
meant thank you - another way of

759
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:56,580
thinking right it's meant to reinforce a

760
00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:00,059
certain doctrine and if you if you read

761
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:03,659
any of the holy books of these religions

762
00:33:09,849 --> 00:33:06,210
they'll espouse that you know well they

763
00:33:13,629 --> 00:33:09,859
come from this divine spark and combined

764
00:33:16,639 --> 00:33:13,639
inspiration and this vision or this this

765
00:33:19,009 --> 00:33:16,649
experience that someone had but one less

766
00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:19,019
them and then and you're you and never

767
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:21,059
between show me you you can't have that

768
00:33:25,639 --> 00:33:22,590
experience because you aren't holding up

769
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:25,649
all right like well excuse me I'm a

770
00:33:30,619 --> 00:33:28,230
human being as well you know and and

771
00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:30,629
this is the only guy who edits with the

772
00:33:37,399 --> 00:33:35,340
experiences you know so mm-hmm I'm with

773
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,409
you there man cheers to that and just to

774
00:33:41,659 --> 00:33:39,600
talk a little bit more about the thin

775
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:41,669
horn garden because it is pretty cool

776
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:43,950
it does give us a more modern glimpse

777
00:33:47,629 --> 00:33:45,769
into the type of spirit communication

778
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:47,639
approach that some of the Native

779
00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:49,529
American tribes had right I mean is

780
00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:52,230
there anything more we can say about the

781
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:54,059
parallels between the two and exactly

782
00:33:58,150 --> 00:33:56,000
what it was they were doing

783
00:34:00,700 --> 00:33:58,160
while they were there both trying to do

784
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:00,710
the same thing they're both trying to

785
00:34:07,930 --> 00:34:04,730
contact the spirits of certain plants to

786
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:07,940
get insight and growing them and they

787
00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:09,890
both seem to have had success with it

788
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:13,580
and I don't really you know see much

789
00:34:18,220 --> 00:34:16,250
evidence of Native American influence

790
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:18,230
specifically if in one garden so it

791
00:34:23,110 --> 00:34:20,330
would be it would just be another

792
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,120
instance of a similar system having

793
00:34:27,850 --> 00:34:25,760
developed right yeah I mean that is what

794
00:34:30,940 --> 00:34:27,860
I was getting that is since we can't go

795
00:34:34,510 --> 00:34:30,950
back in time to see the undisturbed

796
00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:34,520
Native American situation we can kind of

797
00:34:39,910 --> 00:34:36,590
look at the thin horn garden and see

798
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,920
parallels to it working out for them

799
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:42,320
yeah yeah and that's what they say about

800
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:44,510
ayahuasca like with the shamans in the

801
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:46,430
Amazon too is they ask these shamans how

802
00:34:49,630 --> 00:34:47,570
did you decide to put these two things

803
00:34:53,050 --> 00:34:49,640
together to mix it into this brew and

804
00:34:55,810 --> 00:34:53,060
they say well the plants told us and you

805
00:34:57,370 --> 00:34:55,820
know the in psychedelic circles a lot of

806
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:57,380
people know that and kind of take that

807
00:35:01,180 --> 00:34:59,090
for granted but why would you think it

808
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:01,190
would only come into play with that vine

809
00:35:04,090 --> 00:35:02,720
in that plan why wouldn't you think it

810
00:35:05,610 --> 00:35:04,100
would happen with basically everything

811
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:05,620
in the environment or everything

812
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:09,680
biological well I mean with regard to

813
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:12,050
ayahuasca you know I think it's like

814
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:15,170
there's over 110 thousand plants they

815
00:35:21,070 --> 00:35:17,450
could mix that other plant with and

816
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:21,080
right the chances of it happening by by

817
00:35:26,170 --> 00:35:23,210
chance are just astronomical would have

818
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:26,180
taken way way too long for them to just

819
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:27,410
discover that by accident

820
00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:31,040
exactly and I would assume that the same

821
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:33,080
way they got that insight they'd get

822
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:34,850
insight about basically everything that

823
00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:37,130
they're around well you know it's like

824
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:41,300
the Buddhist Lamas and just any religion

825
00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:43,670
that still has a mystical aspect still

826
00:35:50,830 --> 00:35:46,460
has meditation as part of their practice

827
00:35:52,210 --> 00:35:50,840
or chanting drumming something that gets

828
00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:52,220
you into an altered state of

829
00:35:57,550 --> 00:35:54,980
consciousness yeah these are the thing I

830
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:57,560
mean so Native American tribes they do

831
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:59,090
the hanging with hostessing that I I

832
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:00,800
drove and I look there if I don't have

833
00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:03,230
to but right you know that induces a

834
00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:05,060
trance and that causes you to go into an

835
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,640
altered consciousness where you're able

836
00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:09,440
to commune with spirit

837
00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:12,080
things like that I think basically it's

838
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:14,780
because in that case it's such an

839
00:36:21,970 --> 00:36:18,200
extreme amount of pain that your

840
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:21,980
conscious mind it kind of shuts off you

841
00:36:26,590 --> 00:36:23,570
know because if you can't deal with it

842
00:36:28,510 --> 00:36:26,600
right and so that you're basically start

843
00:36:30,580 --> 00:36:28,520
delving into the lower parts of your

844
00:36:33,970 --> 00:36:30,590
mind that you don't really don't

845
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:33,980
interact with yeah and that clearly

846
00:36:38,290 --> 00:36:36,050
seems to be value in that because people

847
00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:38,300
come back with things that seem to work

848
00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:40,460
and we were also going to talk a little

849
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:42,740
bit more about plants and healing

850
00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:44,930
because of course a major slice of the

851
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:47,120
conspiracy world is Rockefeller medicine

852
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:49,190
and the widespread institution of

853
00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:51,260
chemical treatments rather than natural

854
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:54,350
plant-based ones and it's kind of to the

855
00:36:58,690 --> 00:36:56,510
point now that people completely dismiss

856
00:37:01,660 --> 00:36:58,700
the power of plants you know it's on it

857
00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:01,670
kind of a joke to be a naturalist but

858
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:03,950
what have you learned about this from

859
00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:05,330
the research that you've looked into

860
00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:06,920
Native American practices is there some

861
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:10,220
real power there you think oh yeah

862
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:14,570
there's not much money yeah the thing is

863
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:16,490
that you know all these simply want

864
00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:18,530
something the patent of course and you

865
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:20,600
can't patent something that's already in

866
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:24,110
the public realm now if you can take

867
00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:25,610
this plant you can genetically engineer

868
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:29,270
it a little bit hey I can patent that I

869
00:37:38,050 --> 00:37:33,890
I can make money off of that but yeah

870
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:38,060
that's the main main thing to prohibit

871
00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:40,130
things like that from getting too far

872
00:37:45,340 --> 00:37:42,830
off the ground David propagandized all

873
00:37:47,770 --> 00:37:45,350
doctors citizens this isn't something to

874
00:37:50,260 --> 00:37:47,780
look at and these aren't powerful enough

875
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:50,270
they aren't effective you know we have

876
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:53,690
varying amounts of active ingredient

877
00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:55,490
things like that it you know I mean they

878
00:37:59,860 --> 00:37:57,950
do they're natural and they have varying

879
00:38:03,190 --> 00:37:59,870
amounts in green but you can still test

880
00:38:04,750 --> 00:38:03,200
and things like that so to say that you

881
00:38:07,390 --> 00:38:04,760
know it doesn't have any value that

882
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:07,400
looks very and I mean really what we get

883
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:10,430
in terms of the pharmacopoeia of the

884
00:38:17,350 --> 00:38:13,240
pharmaceutical company is basically a

885
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:17,360
single derivative it's an extract or or

886
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:21,920
a chemical synthesis if the new

887
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:24,049
chemical that they just basically copied

888
00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:26,690
out of the natural world typically or

889
00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:28,460
they tried to make something that was

890
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:29,900
similar enough that we had to someone

891
00:38:36,220 --> 00:38:32,740
action and they could patent that so

892
00:38:38,170 --> 00:38:36,230
it's basically what they themselves are

893
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:38,180
drawing on when they when they make

894
00:38:42,579 --> 00:38:40,490
their their medicines it's just that a

895
00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:42,589
lot of these medicines are just harsh

896
00:38:47,230 --> 00:38:44,839
you know it's kind of like difference

897
00:38:50,799 --> 00:38:47,240
between drinking beer or wine and

898
00:38:54,579 --> 00:38:50,809
drinking vodka for drinking Yukon jack

899
00:38:56,859 --> 00:38:54,589
if I it's a lot harsher on your body

900
00:38:58,510 --> 00:38:56,869
drink there's still stuff and you know

901
00:38:59,920 --> 00:38:58,520
the way I think of pharmaceuticals

902
00:39:03,609 --> 00:38:59,930
they're kind of like a distilled stuff

903
00:39:06,339 --> 00:39:03,619
Rosenberg's stuff so you know it's

904
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:06,349
something where I think that has a lot

905
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,960
to do with why we have so many issues

906
00:39:14,799 --> 00:39:10,880
today because it's you know that they

907
00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:14,809
basically are only taking an aspect of

908
00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:17,960
which should be applied as a more

909
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:20,900
holistic approach right I agree with you

910
00:39:24,059 --> 00:39:21,290
there

911
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:24,069
and so what can be said really I guess

912
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:27,290
for the Native Americans

913
00:39:32,349 --> 00:39:30,250
I guess quote-unquote medical system as

914
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:32,359
opposed to ours do we know anything

915
00:39:36,549 --> 00:39:35,210
about their health before the

916
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:36,559
colonialist arrive do we know anything

917
00:39:43,059 --> 00:39:40,010
about their lifespans how effective was

918
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:43,069
their medicine for their way of life in

919
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:45,430
their environment as opposed to ours

920
00:39:50,140 --> 00:39:47,960
well I mean there were some things that

921
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,150
they were very good at and there were

922
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:52,160
some things that they were not so good

923
00:39:57,339 --> 00:39:55,069
at I mean antibiotics or something that

924
00:40:01,569 --> 00:39:57,349
it has been developed that they didn't

925
00:40:03,549 --> 00:40:01,579
really have a an analogue for to a large

926
00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:03,559
degree I mean there were things that

927
00:40:07,450 --> 00:40:05,329
could boost the immune system there are

928
00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:07,460
things we help send off certain

929
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:10,540
illnesses or deal with the symptoms but

930
00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:13,010
you know something that that actually

931
00:40:19,059 --> 00:40:16,700
went in and killed off certain organisms

932
00:40:21,789 --> 00:40:19,069
they didn't have really so that's that's

933
00:40:23,890 --> 00:40:21,799
one major difference but you know

934
00:40:26,109 --> 00:40:23,900
there's all these extracts and there's

935
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,119
you know oil of oregano and things like

936
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:28,640
that which we know about that have

937
00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:32,240
similar actions the all leaf extract is

938
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:35,700
actually the most effective of the

939
00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:41,190
herbal antibiotic anti fungal antiviral

940
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:43,620
compounds are out there about 90 percent

941
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:47,240
effective so that's that's really good

942
00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:51,410
yeah so man do you think we could ever

943
00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:54,120
kind of get back to this

944
00:40:59,900 --> 00:40:55,800
it seems actually somewhat difficult

945
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:59,910
because if you consider all the plants

946
00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:01,260
and animals in the environment to be

947
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:03,870
kind of crossroads for consciousness or

948
00:41:08,780 --> 00:41:06,810
ways to communicate with the great

949
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:08,790
spirit as they might have called it or

950
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,430
just whatever spirits of any kind it

951
00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:14,040
seems like it's kind of hard to get

952
00:41:17,540 --> 00:41:15,870
spiritual messages from animals or

953
00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:17,550
nature when we've destroyed it all like

954
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:19,820
it is it kind of like can we not go back

955
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:23,250
well I mean you know the Finns Borden

956
00:41:27,830 --> 00:41:25,410
Garden we would say yeah they're ready

957
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:27,840
to talk if we're ready to listen that's

958
00:41:33,020 --> 00:41:30,810
fair I mean the thing is that I I think

959
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:33,030
that if we're going to continue to live

960
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:34,560
on this planet we don't have any other

961
00:41:40,220 --> 00:41:37,800
choice a lot of people aren't choosing

962
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,230
to or and then a lot of them don't even

963
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:43,200
know that that's an option right the the

964
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:46,050
most important thing is to try and get

965
00:41:51,140 --> 00:41:48,810
people aware of the fact that there are

966
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:51,150
different ways of doing things applying

967
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:53,390
chemicals to the ground is not feeding

968
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,010
that's applying chemicals to the ground

969
00:42:01,400 --> 00:41:59,280
that it kills off the microorganisms on

970
00:42:03,410 --> 00:42:01,410
the ground it's like if we took a bunch

971
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:03,420
of grain alcohol and dumped it on the

972
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:04,980
ground it would kill off everything that

973
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:07,650
it's just not healthy what you need to

974
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:10,530
do is you need to work with the soil you

975
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:12,090
need to develop the soil you need to

976
00:42:16,850 --> 00:42:14,090
make it into something that harbors

977
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:16,860
microorganisms and feeds plants because

978
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:19,920
the thing is the microorganisms that are

979
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:22,260
the fungi that are in the soil there

980
00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:25,530
with you most of the work for the plants

981
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:27,960
because the plants actually depend on

982
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:30,420
them to carry nutrients through the soil

983
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:34,410
to their roots so when we do the sorts

984
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,390
of agricultural practices that we'd be

985
00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:38,880
especially monoculture which is a

986
00:42:44,330 --> 00:42:41,820
horrible it you know completely deplete

987
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:44,340
the soil you have to do rotations but I

988
00:42:48,310 --> 00:42:46,530
mean that's not really a solution the

989
00:42:51,370 --> 00:42:48,320
solution is grow

990
00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:51,380
plants intermingled with each other so

991
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:53,660
say they support each other which is

992
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:56,210
what's described in permaculture so I

993
00:43:01,780 --> 00:42:58,370
think that there's a lot to be gleaned

994
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:01,790
from a lot of these different types of

995
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:04,160
Agriculture and you know taking bits and

996
00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:05,990
pieces from each one and trying to

997
00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:07,640
integrate them together and find new

998
00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:10,550
ways to account for you know the growth

999
00:43:16,750 --> 00:43:13,700
patterns after disruption and account

1000
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,760
for soil and account for the way the

1001
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:18,560
land is used and how it affects the

1002
00:43:23,590 --> 00:43:20,810
water you know there's a lot of these

1003
00:43:25,570 --> 00:43:23,600
things that haven't been entertained for

1004
00:43:28,450 --> 00:43:25,580
a long time because there's been a

1005
00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:28,460
certain mindset and I'm hoping that you

1006
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:30,020
know that mindset is changing a little

1007
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:31,610
bit I mean this in fact was that both

1008
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:34,730
pending a while by mcat Anderson I sent

1009
00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:38,090
you was published you know that says a

1010
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,660
lot mm-hmm yeah it does if you want to

1011
00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:43,040
be positive that's definitely something

1012
00:43:48,820 --> 00:43:46,280
to look at but man we hear these quotes

1013
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:48,830
that I love about just all the abundance

1014
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:51,530
that was out there it wasn't that long

1015
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:53,450
ago how did we manage to [\h__\h] all this

1016
00:43:59,230 --> 00:43:55,690
up in so little time

1017
00:44:01,600 --> 00:43:59,240
well really by the beginning of the 19th

1018
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:01,610
I mean by the end of the 19th going into

1019
00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:02,560
the 20th century

1020
00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:05,390
without really much in the way of

1021
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:09,620
mechanistic you know assistance European

1022
00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:12,770
mindset alone had managed to wipe out

1023
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:15,830
most of everything we've we've recovered

1024
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:19,430
quite a bit since then actually but yeah

1025
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:22,160
it in terms of the animal life and but

1026
00:44:29,110 --> 00:44:25,520
the vegetation to large degree has been

1027
00:44:32,350 --> 00:44:29,120
just development it has a lot to do with

1028
00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:32,360
mindset basically it didn't take a whole

1029
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:35,990
lot of sophistication for the Europeans

1030
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:39,290
to completely wipe out the carrier

1031
00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:43,250
pigeons and things like that so we're

1032
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:45,140
lucky that there have been some rules to

1033
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:48,260
hold back the complete decimation of a

1034
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:51,710
while wild areas but what we need to

1035
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:53,470
realize we need to do more than just

1036
00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:56,930
prevent them from being destroyed yeah

1037
00:45:01,810 --> 00:44:59,570
just kind of replanting things here and

1038
00:45:02,140 --> 00:45:01,820
there and we really need to track a lot

1039
00:45:05,410 --> 00:45:02,150
more

1040
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:05,420
with land in order to be able to get it

1041
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:07,010
back to where kind of where it was

1042
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:09,890
before maybe even better you know start

1043
00:45:12,970 --> 00:45:10,970
bringing in some of these other

1044
00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:12,980
techniques isn't that I'm talking about

1045
00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:17,660
like bio dynamics things like that I'd

1046
00:45:22,809 --> 00:45:19,750
like to like to start talking about that

1047
00:45:24,490 --> 00:45:22,819
yeah that was actually my next note here

1048
00:45:27,579 --> 00:45:24,500
the only other thing I was going to say

1049
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:27,589
to kind of add to your points there was

1050
00:45:31,059 --> 00:45:29,210
that in one of these videos I was

1051
00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:31,069
watching it kind of gets into this

1052
00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:32,750
material in preparation for today

1053
00:45:37,809 --> 00:45:35,900
they're reading from the writings of a

1054
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,819
Native American like some Journal of

1055
00:45:43,019 --> 00:45:40,160
some type and he says I really just

1056
00:45:45,370 --> 00:45:43,029
don't get these people they cut down

1057
00:45:48,339 --> 00:45:45,380
massive trees to build these structures

1058
00:45:51,069 --> 00:45:48,349
and then all winter long they burn wood

1059
00:45:53,769 --> 00:45:51,079
in every room of every building that

1060
00:45:56,529 --> 00:45:53,779
they build and it's just extremely

1061
00:45:58,930 --> 00:45:56,539
wasteful and it won't be sustainable and

1062
00:46:00,700 --> 00:45:58,940
sure enough it isn't but I thought that

1063
00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:00,710
was just a great point I can only

1064
00:46:04,839 --> 00:46:01,460
imagine

1065
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:04,849
Native Americans seeing this completely

1066
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:07,490
alien way of doing everything and just

1067
00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:10,210
watching it rape and pillage their

1068
00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:12,020
surroundings and you know these white

1069
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:13,400
people like isn't this better look how

1070
00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:15,730
awesome this is and yeah yeah I'm

1071
00:46:23,470 --> 00:46:20,270
looking pots pans in you know nice yeah

1072
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:23,480
one like we had a Japan nice before a

1073
00:46:28,359 --> 00:46:27,049
sofa yeah I mean just just gotta imagine

1074
00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:28,369
how crazy that beast

1075
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:32,299
we made my land back yeah right on so

1076
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:34,690
right you said you want to also discuss

1077
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:37,190
biodynamic agriculture and I guess

1078
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:39,890
Rudolf Steiners alchemically derived

1079
00:46:45,029 --> 00:46:41,839
agriculture system what's going on with

1080
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:45,039
this stuff that you also sent me so

1081
00:46:52,809 --> 00:46:48,890
basically it's a way of selling and

1082
00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:52,819
reaping and basically coming up with a

1083
00:46:58,930 --> 00:46:55,190
cyclic look at the way that different

1084
00:47:02,079 --> 00:46:58,940
plants interact with the environment so

1085
00:47:05,710 --> 00:47:02,089
what he's talking about is the kind of a

1086
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:05,720
longitudinal wave the the Oregon energy

1087
00:47:12,099 --> 00:47:08,839
from the Sun as it were as that

1088
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,109
interacts with the earth he tries to

1089
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:15,200
draw the correct energies

1090
00:47:21,730 --> 00:47:18,010
are being emanated and channeled through

1091
00:47:23,859 --> 00:47:21,740
you know the astrological interactions

1092
00:47:26,140 --> 00:47:23,869
with planets and the lensing of those

1093
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:26,150
waves down to the earth and things like

1094
00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:29,839
that like the zodiac these the zodiac to

1095
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:31,880
plan when they're going to plan some

1096
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:34,010
things like that and they also use it

1097
00:47:38,260 --> 00:47:36,410
for making these preparations where the

1098
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:38,270
preparations are planted at a certain

1099
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:41,660
time and so it will be it will be cow

1100
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:44,750
manure in a horn or it'll be an herb and

1101
00:47:51,010 --> 00:47:48,079
a horn portal it might also be silica

1102
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:51,020
which is course in a horn and it will be

1103
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:54,079
buried underground and then the energy

1104
00:47:59,770 --> 00:47:57,890
is being absorbed by the earth from the

1105
00:48:03,329 --> 00:47:59,780
longitudinal energy is being

1106
00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:03,339
concentrated by the horn in the ground

1107
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:07,940
into this material so it is I think it's

1108
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,300
you know especially the course

1109
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:12,640
preparation I think that it helps to

1110
00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:16,310
focus Oregon through the resonance

1111
00:48:23,319 --> 00:48:19,940
cavity effects that Viktor grew

1112
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:23,329
penticoff found and it also helps to

1113
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:26,089
concentrate organs as well in this year

1114
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:29,510
I mean I mean Oregon orgonite I mean not

1115
00:48:36,910 --> 00:48:32,710
orgonite what is it the gold powder

1116
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:36,920
Ormus from enormous into there huh so

1117
00:48:41,319 --> 00:48:38,359
that maybe that's why that guy was

1118
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:41,329
discovering Ormus like what that was so

1119
00:48:45,339 --> 00:48:43,609
weird because to go back to you know all

1120
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:45,349
the gold you can eat they didn't really

1121
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:48,050
get into why he found this stuff it just

1122
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:50,000
seemed like he found this stuff Ormus in

1123
00:48:53,980 --> 00:48:51,650
his field and he started doing all this

1124
00:48:55,450 --> 00:48:53,990
weird testing on it it's everywhere it's

1125
00:48:57,819 --> 00:48:55,460
everywhere like I said before it goes

1126
00:49:01,720 --> 00:48:57,829
between the land and water the air is

1127
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:01,730
everything so I think that the horn and

1128
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:04,250
and because the horn is full of all

1129
00:49:09,220 --> 00:49:06,290
these as a bone it's full of all these

1130
00:49:11,890 --> 00:49:09,230
cavities and so I think all those little

1131
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:11,900
cavities are helping to concentrate the

1132
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:14,810
flow this is Derek energy into there and

1133
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:17,510
the horn shape that's also like a Phi a

1134
00:49:24,220 --> 00:49:21,170
Phi curve you know if you're familiar

1135
00:49:26,589 --> 00:49:24,230
with the golden ratio yeah I think that

1136
00:49:28,590 --> 00:49:26,599
that helps the energy go into a Phi or

1137
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:28,600
like a light positive

1138
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:31,510
sort of flow the shape of the horn

1139
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:32,710
because it looks like kind of like the

1140
00:49:37,410 --> 00:49:35,200
shell yeah it has that thing kind of

1141
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,420
ratio built into it so I think that

1142
00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:40,000
that's kind of helping the energy flow

1143
00:49:45,180 --> 00:49:41,830
through there and it gets it helps to

1144
00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:45,190
concentrate because I think that formas

1145
00:49:50,930 --> 00:49:48,340
is caught up in this stuff and so when

1146
00:49:54,420 --> 00:49:50,940
you when you have it be concentrated and

1147
00:49:57,570 --> 00:49:54,430
flowing it helps to concentrate it into

1148
00:50:01,340 --> 00:49:57,580
what you have in there like biohacking

1149
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:01,350
the rules of our 3d environment yeah

1150
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:03,850
kinda I mean is there much of a

1151
00:50:07,470 --> 00:50:05,710
historical precedence for for this

1152
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:07,480
biodynamic all agriculture this is a

1153
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:09,810
recent thing right a fairly recent thing

1154
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:13,210
well it was built by Rudolf Steiner who

1155
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:17,260
was like late 19th early 20th century

1156
00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:20,850
and this was all based off with his

1157
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:24,670
basically a spirit sight he saw things

1158
00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:27,010
in other worlds so to speak growing up

1159
00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:29,860
and then he went to school and he got a

1160
00:50:35,340 --> 00:50:32,140
doctorate you know started writing about

1161
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:35,350
this stuff but he was basically someone

1162
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:38,050
who wanted to understand the spiritual

1163
00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:41,470
in a scientific context hmm interesting

1164
00:50:46,290 --> 00:50:43,960
yeah I don't know enough about Rudolf

1165
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:46,300
Steiner obviously seems like an

1166
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:47,830
interesting guy in that Wilhelm Reich

1167
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:51,280
wheelhouse kind of yeah well you know

1168
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:55,630
Rudolf Steiner I would say that he the

1169
00:50:59,760 --> 00:50:56,890
group that he started was called

1170
00:51:03,180 --> 00:50:59,770
anthroposophy it was basically an

1171
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:03,190
outreach of the theosophy movement well

1172
00:51:09,150 --> 00:51:05,170
not an outreach I say a kind of a you

1173
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:09,160
know splinter off of them because one of

1174
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:11,850
the offices that Krishnamurti was

1175
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:15,490
reincarnation of Jesus I think then

1176
00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:17,710
that's when he kind of split off gotcha

1177
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:19,360
yeah I've got a Krishnamurti

1178
00:51:24,990 --> 00:51:22,770
magnet on my refrigerator right now I

1179
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:25,000
always thought that the office this roof

1180
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:28,690
it wacky but I'm a bit down more with

1181
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:31,510
the hand processes yeah you're not alone

1182
00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:33,250
in that and that thought I've had quite

1183
00:51:38,670 --> 00:51:37,480
a few guests kind of say that yeah right

1184
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:38,680
on so

1185
00:51:44,340 --> 00:51:41,440
I guess this biodynamic agriculture it

1186
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:44,350
is super interesting I mean what else

1187
00:51:48,690 --> 00:51:45,910
can be said about it why has it ever

1188
00:51:51,390 --> 00:51:48,700
been used in a real widespread fashion

1189
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,400
oh it's very widespread in Australia

1190
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:52,720
most places actually

1191
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:54,730
huh because they have such horrible soil

1192
00:51:59,520 --> 00:51:56,410
down there they've used to develop their

1193
00:52:01,890 --> 00:51:59,530
salon places there are few people who

1194
00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:01,900
started to advocate it I think was

1195
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:04,360
during the 20th century yeah I mean

1196
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:06,550
that's an agile thing because that's I

1197
00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:08,260
think he started to get his talks about

1198
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:10,300
it during 20 I think was like maybe

1199
00:52:14,340 --> 00:52:12,250
there's 60s or the 80s they started to

1200
00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:14,350
really take off there there's a lot

1201
00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:15,790
there's a lot of fun Danny McCormack

1202
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:19,600
down there huh and I mean they're

1203
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:24,400
they're using courts yeah so like I said

1204
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:27,280
in the previous episode courses actually

1205
00:52:33,450 --> 00:52:29,770
and crystals are actually kind of like

1206
00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:33,460
it will nest for materials to get

1207
00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:37,060
trapped and so I think that the reason

1208
00:52:43,110 --> 00:52:39,700
why they're using the course and there's

1209
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:43,120
their kind of super charging the courts

1210
00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:46,510
with warmest materials in the horn as

1211
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:49,150
its buried and it's getting kind of a

1212
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:52,300
flavor from the from a blows of etheric

1213
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:53,890
energy that are going through it and

1214
00:53:00,330 --> 00:52:57,250
then that is basically being mixed with

1215
00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:00,340
water and sprayed on the fields and what

1216
00:53:06,990 --> 00:53:03,430
that does I think is the course kind of

1217
00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:07,000
in a homeopathic way it's structure

1218
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:09,070
eise's the water because the thing is

1219
00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:11,590
the water has strong bonds between the

1220
00:53:16,890 --> 00:53:14,320
hydrogen and the oxygen but it's a it's

1221
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:16,900
a polar molecule so that means as

1222
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:19,450
positive and negative side itself so

1223
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:22,210
that molecule can be arranged like

1224
00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:25,150
magnets in different structures and so

1225
00:53:31,260 --> 00:53:28,840
when you have electromagnetic fields

1226
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:31,270
when you have contaminants in the water

1227
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,130
when you would you have stuff that's

1228
00:53:37,590 --> 00:53:35,440
mixed with it it's going to retain a

1229
00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:37,600
flavor of that even if that material is

1230
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:39,460
removed because it's effective of the

1231
00:53:43,830 --> 00:53:42,730
weaker bonds in water that has that's

1232
00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:43,840
what we talk about when we're talking

1233
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:48,190
about water structure hmm and so if you

1234
00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:51,280
put quartz in one of these horns and

1235
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:52,540
bury it

1236
00:53:56,340 --> 00:53:54,250
I mean you also mentioned their spraying

1237
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:56,350
you know affected water on this but how

1238
00:54:01,260 --> 00:53:59,680
large of an area does that affect from

1239
00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:01,270
what I understand that I can't remember

1240
00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:03,340
the ratios let me see it might have it

1241
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:07,720
open somewhere on here the cloud Kalen

1242
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:12,010
silica is the mixture of one gram to 13

1243
00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:15,490
liters of water per acre so one gram of

1244
00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:18,550
this stuff is good for an acre down you

1245
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:22,030
mix with water and that I mean it let's

1246
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:24,250
see the spray enhances photosynthesis is

1247
00:54:29,070 --> 00:54:26,680
a lead and if such complements the

1248
00:54:31,290 --> 00:54:29,080
activity of the preparation BD 500 which

1249
00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:31,300
is another one of the preparations they

1250
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:33,460
make which works mostly on the root zone

1251
00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:35,650
of the plant all strings of strengthens

1252
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:37,240
the plant against some fungus attacks

1253
00:54:45,380 --> 00:54:40,120
rots and passionfruit and rest on coffee

1254
00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:45,390
and rice so it it basically helps it to

1255
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:48,040
photosynthesize better it's kind of like

1256
00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:50,800
foliar feeding and gets absorbed by the

1257
00:54:56,850 --> 00:54:54,100
pores of the plant right so if this is

1258
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:56,860
so effective I mean why wouldn't the

1259
00:55:00,450 --> 00:54:58,690
corporate farming industry just use it

1260
00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:00,460
also because they're you know profit at

1261
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:02,260
any cost they don't care what you know

1262
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:05,970
will get them there well I mean if

1263
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:08,710
there's a lot of skepticism around it I

1264
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:11,490
mean it really it's not the corporations

1265
00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:14,170
because the corporations typically are

1266
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:17,460
not the farmers the farmers are

1267
00:55:24,210 --> 00:55:21,520
typically individuals and they base it

1268
00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:24,220
off of what they think will happen and

1269
00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:27,640
most people are skeptical I mean there

1270
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:30,040
there was a large movement by by

1271
00:55:36,570 --> 00:55:33,340
biodynamic farmers in Australia to

1272
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:36,580
educate others so that was affected

1273
00:55:41,610 --> 00:55:39,280
there but most people are just they just

1274
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:41,620
don't believe it will work they're

1275
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:44,440
afraid of path there Fraser losing a

1276
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:46,210
crop would destroy them because the way

1277
00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:48,430
we've got everything financed right now

1278
00:55:52,110 --> 00:55:50,950
and they have to have they have to be

1279
00:55:55,350 --> 00:55:52,120
able to make payments on all this

1280
00:55:57,570 --> 00:55:55,360
equipment people spray this stuff and if

1281
00:56:01,410 --> 00:55:57,580
it's really a wasteful wasteful system

1282
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:01,420
and it's wasteful not just of material

1283
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:05,440
resources of fuel but also it's human

1284
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:06,490
life because a lot of

1285
00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:09,330
farmers if they do have a bad year and

1286
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:13,390
increasingly even with the genetic you

1287
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:16,570
know manipulation and the chemicals and

1288
00:56:19,890 --> 00:56:17,170
everything else

1289
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,900
soil is becoming so depleted that there

1290
00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:21,760
are many more diseases that are cropping

1291
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:23,830
up even with all that stuff and they

1292
00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:26,950
can't stop it is apps faster we can deal

1293
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,350
with this point man and so to switch

1294
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:34,480
gears a little bit here I'm always

1295
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:37,030
interested in magic and the methods of

1296
00:56:40,350 --> 00:56:38,650
the Ancients and that's why Native

1297
00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:40,360
Americans are also so interesting

1298
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:43,480
because they're still living fragments

1299
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:45,130
of that way of life to some degree you

1300
00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:47,260
think the elders might know some of that

1301
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:49,060
stuff still as opposed to other cultures

1302
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:51,610
who are just completely gone and when it

1303
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:52,990
comes to Native Americans probably the

1304
00:56:57,450 --> 00:56:55,510
most widely known ritual is the rain

1305
00:56:59,550 --> 00:56:57,460
dance and it's presented today as

1306
00:57:01,890 --> 00:56:59,560
superstition but you do seem to think

1307
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:01,900
not only that it worked but you might

1308
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:05,400
have some insights into how right yeah

1309
00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:08,410
so the rain dance basically what it was

1310
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:11,560
was it was a ritual where a shaman and a

1311
00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:13,690
group of people with you know they dance

1312
00:57:20,359 --> 00:57:16,800
they go into a trance and they would be

1313
00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:20,369
trying to summon the forces of rain and

1314
00:57:27,570 --> 00:57:23,740
from the evidence of Wilhelm Reich with

1315
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:27,580
his you know rain system that he

1316
00:57:33,690 --> 00:57:31,030
developed and also HAARP there is

1317
00:57:35,340 --> 00:57:33,700
evidence that that's possible and both

1318
00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:35,350
of those systems are using this

1319
00:57:41,070 --> 00:57:37,240
longitudinal energy as I'm talking about

1320
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:41,080
yeah there's evidence from not just rain

1321
00:57:43,170 --> 00:57:41,680
dance

1322
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:43,180
but also you know all these other

1323
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:46,390
spiritual experiences that the human

1324
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:48,490
body and the human mind is capable of

1325
00:57:53,490 --> 00:57:51,250
reproducing those effects reproducing

1326
00:57:56,580 --> 00:57:53,500
longitudinal waves creating what is

1327
00:57:58,820 --> 00:57:56,590
levitation effects creating effects that

1328
00:58:01,770 --> 00:57:58,830
could be counted for by normal

1329
00:58:04,849 --> 00:58:01,780
interactions and space times we think of

1330
00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:04,859
it and the way I think that happens is

1331
00:58:11,550 --> 00:58:08,440
you know I'd like to kind of go a bit

1332
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:11,560
into the kind of chain of custody for

1333
00:58:17,490 --> 00:58:15,310
information so to speak mm-hmm so

1334
00:58:20,910 --> 00:58:17,500
we have our conscious mind which is the

1335
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:20,920
mind that everybody thinks so and that's

1336
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:22,770
kind of what they identifies themselves

1337
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:28,090
right so it's the realm of ego and that

1338
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:30,970
that would be kind of considered to be

1339
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:33,610
you know the left half of your brain and

1340
00:58:38,010 --> 00:58:36,430
it's more of a serial system you think

1341
00:58:41,070 --> 00:58:38,020
about one thing at a time

1342
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:41,080
plotting to the next thing and you think

1343
00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:42,490
that that's a very efficient way to

1344
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:46,300
think most of the time but actually you

1345
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:48,070
know I mean you cut this other side of

1346
00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:50,890
your brain the subconscious which is you

1347
00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:53,260
know mostly what people deal with in the

1348
00:58:57,090 --> 00:58:55,000
realm of dreams and things like that

1349
00:59:00,000 --> 00:58:57,100
it's the artistic mind if you're

1350
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:00,010
artistic person and you deal a lot with

1351
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:01,690
yours your right side of your mind

1352
00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:04,570
symbolism but relationships between

1353
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:09,100
things that sort of a thing and then

1354
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:12,970
there's the unconscious mind and the

1355
00:59:18,270 --> 00:59:15,370
conscious and the subconscious are kind

1356
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:18,280
of they deal together through the corpus

1357
00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:20,110
callosum which is its connective tissue

1358
00:59:26,610 --> 00:59:22,180
between the two hemispheres of your head

1359
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:26,620
and they also deal with the limbic

1360
00:59:31,410 --> 00:59:29,860
system in the spinal column in a limbic

1361
00:59:36,290 --> 00:59:31,420
system in the spinal column are

1362
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:36,300
basically the unconscious mind and the

1363
00:59:42,690 --> 00:59:39,910
left half is serial processing one thing

1364
00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:42,700
at a time the right half is parallel

1365
00:59:48,030 --> 00:59:45,430
processing which means that it processes

1366
00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:48,040
a lot of things at once like when your

1367
00:59:54,030 --> 00:59:50,860
subconscious is looking at something it

1368
00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:54,040
doesn't see any one thing specifically

1369
00:59:59,180 --> 00:59:56,200
looking at all the relationships between

1370
01:00:02,400 --> 00:59:59,190
everything it has a lot more bandwidth

1371
01:00:05,070 --> 01:00:02,410
but in terms of the operations that can

1372
01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:05,080
be your your your conscious mind is

1373
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:07,420
capable of going methodically through a

1374
01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:10,210
lot of steps a lot of operations but

1375
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:13,600
your subconscious mind is very limited

1376
01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:15,970
in the sorts of operations like you know

1377
01:00:20,250 --> 01:00:18,520
when you get dream imagery it's hard to

1378
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:20,260
tell exactly what's being conveyed

1379
01:00:26,370 --> 01:00:22,810
because it's a very simple message but

1380
01:00:28,650 --> 01:00:26,380
it's conveyed symbolically so that's

1381
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:28,660
kind of the dream to speak

1382
01:00:33,450 --> 01:00:31,210
from your subconscious is kind of hell

1383
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:33,460
how we're usually interacted with by our

1384
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:35,410
subconscious mind and then the

1385
01:00:41,370 --> 01:00:39,030
unconscious mind it feels more feelings

1386
01:00:44,310 --> 01:00:41,380
and your subconscious mind interprets

1387
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:44,320
those feelings and pans them off to the

1388
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:47,530
conscious mind moving in a symbolic form

1389
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:51,910
and so the unconscious mind in your in

1390
01:00:58,130 --> 01:00:54,130
your limbic system in your spinal cord

1391
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,140
the spinal cord is acting as the

1392
01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:00,400
receptive portion it's getting all this

1393
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:02,140
information from your organs and things

1394
01:01:09,090 --> 01:01:05,110
like that the limbic system is is acting

1395
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,100
as the projecting portion is basically

1396
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:11,440
releasing all these hormones and all

1397
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:13,780
these regulators for your your synaptic

1398
01:01:18,450 --> 01:01:15,520
functions and things like that you're

1399
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:18,460
different regulating compounds for your

1400
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:21,250
organs and you know there's similar

1401
01:01:26,370 --> 01:01:22,960
effects with your conscious mind as well

1402
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:26,380
the conscious mind the left-half your

1403
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:29,110
brain is the more expressive the more

1404
01:01:35,580 --> 01:01:32,290
projecting portion and on your right

1405
01:01:38,580 --> 01:01:35,590
path your brain is constantly receiving

1406
01:01:40,890 --> 01:01:38,590
information so it's kind of male and

1407
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:40,900
female aspect to your conscious and your

1408
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:43,750
unconscious mind and I think what

1409
01:01:49,710 --> 01:01:46,020
happens is the unconscious mind is

1410
01:01:51,690 --> 01:01:49,720
actually interacting with all these

1411
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:51,700
organs and things like that was acting

1412
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:54,610
at a cellular level detecting a kind of

1413
01:01:59,700 --> 01:01:57,970
a holistic level and I think that the

1414
01:02:02,940 --> 01:01:59,710
way that these longitudinal waves are

1415
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:02,950
being generated is for the mitochondria

1416
01:02:08,190 --> 01:02:05,650
of our DNA and so when people are able

1417
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:08,200
to go into these trance states they're

1418
01:02:15,870 --> 01:02:12,640
able to to convey information past the

1419
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:15,880
subconscious mind to the unconscious

1420
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:19,450
mind and they're able to open up a flow

1421
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:23,350
of information there and so that's where

1422
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:25,450
you get these trans states where they're

1423
01:02:29,130 --> 01:02:27,430
able to see things they can't see

1424
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:29,140
otherwise because they're actually

1425
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:30,490
connected through these longitudinal

1426
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:34,720
ways to this other spiritual realm and

1427
01:02:38,310 --> 01:02:36,910
they're able to interact with it and

1428
01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:38,320
they're able to generate these effects

1429
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:40,060
in our realm as well where you're able

1430
01:02:43,030 --> 01:02:41,210
to administer people

1431
01:02:45,820 --> 01:02:43,040
whether you're able to you know alter

1432
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:45,830
the weight of a person the weight of

1433
01:02:52,570 --> 01:02:49,610
objects and telekinesis and all this all

1434
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:52,580
this weird stuff yeah it seems to match

1435
01:02:58,540 --> 01:02:55,130
up with the effects of this longitudinal

1436
01:03:01,630 --> 01:02:58,550
energy that's well I think basically the

1437
01:03:03,630 --> 01:03:01,640
chain of custody and the last chain

1438
01:03:06,190 --> 01:03:03,640
there that you have a link between the

1439
01:03:09,610 --> 01:03:06,200
cellular and the and the unconscious

1440
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:09,620
mind that's kind of been developed by

1441
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:16,330
this fellow named Stuart Hameroff okay

1442
01:03:23,470 --> 01:03:21,050
Stuart and Ralph is a professor of these

1443
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:23,480
an anesthesiologist and a professor at

1444
01:03:29,470 --> 01:03:25,010
the University of Arizona

1445
01:03:30,730 --> 01:03:29,480
he basically developed a theory where he

1446
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:30,740
felt that there was there was a

1447
01:03:38,770 --> 01:03:34,490
mechanism for cells to interact on a

1448
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:38,780
quantum level and that seems to have

1449
01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:40,970
been demonstrated by some of the

1450
01:03:48,220 --> 01:03:45,260
research that was presented in some

1451
01:03:49,330 --> 01:03:48,230
google talks on quantum biology where

1452
01:03:51,790 --> 01:03:49,340
they're talking about how there's

1453
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:51,800
actually quantum states that are being

1454
01:03:57,220 --> 01:03:54,740
imposed on the microtubules of ourselves

1455
01:03:59,140 --> 01:03:57,230
as they're operating and the

1456
01:04:01,870 --> 01:03:59,150
microtubules of the cells are basically

1457
01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:01,880
the nervous system of the cell so if

1458
01:04:05,470 --> 01:04:03,590
there's quantum information there that

1459
01:04:08,350 --> 01:04:05,480
means that you're able to interact at an

1460
01:04:11,230 --> 01:04:08,360
on local level you're interacting with

1461
01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:11,240
an automotive field and you're able to

1462
01:04:15,370 --> 01:04:13,790
transmit information instantaneously and

1463
01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:15,380
all this other stuff but I think that

1464
01:04:18,820 --> 01:04:16,910
you know what we call quantum is

1465
01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:18,830
actually kind of be after-effects of

1466
01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:22,580
this longitudinal zarok energy so that

1467
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:23,440
makes sense

1468
01:04:28,540 --> 01:04:26,510
wow man well I have a lot of new

1469
01:04:30,190 --> 01:04:28,550
information I love it I really

1470
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:30,200
appreciate you bringing this stuff to

1471
01:04:36,130 --> 01:04:33,200
light I really like your alchemical

1472
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:36,140
tie-in approach and breaking it up by

1473
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:37,490
the elements because I think that's just

1474
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:40,910
a great way to categorize these things I

1475
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:42,290
mean it's just a fun way to do it I

1476
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:43,490
think it makes a lot of sense for people

1477
01:04:47,890 --> 01:04:46,010
it's easily approachable I really like

1478
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:47,900
today is especially with examples like

1479
01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:50,980
the thin horn garden and biodynamic

1480
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:53,030
agriculture that stuff's pretty

1481
01:04:56,539 --> 01:04:55,170
interesting and even else too

1482
01:05:00,589 --> 01:04:56,549
drop on the people before I cut you

1483
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:00,599
loose no not really I mean it's great to

1484
01:05:08,660 --> 01:05:04,799
be on a go ways and I just want to be

1485
01:05:12,380 --> 01:05:08,670
able to kind of tie the ether physics

1486
01:05:16,130 --> 01:05:12,390
outlook into other aspects of you know

1487
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:16,140
life and just kind of seeing how it

1488
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:19,530
filters through these other weird topic

1489
01:05:25,250 --> 01:05:22,319
yeah you know these other things that

1490
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:25,260
otherwise inexplicable because there's

1491
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:28,260
no theory to kind of shine a light on to

1492
01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:30,930
it I think that as I started to research

1493
01:05:37,069 --> 01:05:34,140
ether Theory I think that it has a lot

1494
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:37,079
of strong points to support things that

1495
01:05:42,289 --> 01:05:40,650
otherwise are inexplicable and so I you

1496
01:05:44,299 --> 01:05:42,299
know it's really great to have a

1497
01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:44,309
platform like your shows be able to talk

1498
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:46,740
about this stuff and kind of get it out

1499
01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:48,569
there you know one of the things that

1500
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:52,859
Rudolf Steiner says you can do research

1501
01:05:58,460 --> 01:05:55,740
and things for yourself but once you do

1502
01:06:00,740 --> 01:05:58,470
it's kind of your responsibility to get

1503
01:06:02,359 --> 01:06:00,750
it out there and let other people know

1504
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:02,369
about it so that's kind of what I'm

1505
01:06:07,579 --> 01:06:05,520
trying to do is just you know I've been

1506
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:07,589
doing this research for a while I

1507
01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:10,170
started to make some big big connection

1508
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:12,480
but I think and I just want to get it

1509
01:06:17,450 --> 01:06:14,130
out there so that other people can

1510
01:06:18,380 --> 01:06:17,460
benefit from it and I feel like it's my

1511
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:18,390
responsibility

1512
01:06:22,819 --> 01:06:21,599
yeah well said and it is a very unique

1513
01:06:25,609 --> 01:06:22,829
approach I think you're doing great

1514
01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:25,619
stuff and I appreciate being thought of

1515
01:06:30,620 --> 01:06:27,780
is a great place to walk through it so

1516
01:06:33,799 --> 01:06:30,630
definitely hit up have a good one

1517
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:33,809
and we'll talk soon okay good one all

1518
01:06:39,260 --> 01:06:36,480
right man all right people there we have

1519
01:06:41,030 --> 01:06:39,270
it the triumphant return of the Shema

1520
01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:41,040
engineer I really love the show

1521
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:44,220
especially as it got going 20 30 40

1522
01:06:48,260 --> 01:06:45,690
minutes in because I think a lot of the

1523
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:48,270
stuff starts to click around that point

1524
01:06:53,030 --> 01:06:50,609
but the fact that show Mangia near has

1525
01:06:55,819 --> 01:06:53,040
researched so many bright forgotten

1526
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,829
minds know so much about ether physics

1527
01:06:59,870 --> 01:06:57,599
and is able to apply that template

1528
01:07:02,480 --> 01:06:59,880
pretty effortlessly in multiple areas is

1529
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:02,490
really impressive to me and I do feel

1530
01:07:06,740 --> 01:07:04,410
lucky to have them as a recurring guest

1531
01:07:08,339 --> 01:07:06,750
for the ether physics perspective

1532
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:08,349
because I don't want to

1533
01:07:12,539 --> 01:07:10,930
follow conspiratorial trends you know if

1534
01:07:14,999 --> 01:07:12,549
something big happens yeah we'll talk

1535
01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:15,009
about it but I'd rather get into content

1536
01:07:19,979 --> 01:07:17,470
that I rarely ever hear about but still

1537
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:19,989
sounds like it makes sense this is one

1538
01:07:23,969 --> 01:07:22,210
of those shows for me maybe Native

1539
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:23,979
American permaculture practices

1540
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:25,839
landscape management and engineered

1541
01:07:30,299 --> 01:07:27,430
abundance aren't the most mind-blowing

1542
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:30,309
topics to everyone but isn't it sort of

1543
01:07:34,349 --> 01:07:32,650
fun to visualize a completely different

1544
01:07:37,319 --> 01:07:34,359
way of living and to consider they're

1545
01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:37,329
highly effective processes in comparison

1546
01:07:41,489 --> 01:07:39,460
to corporate factory farms and all the

1547
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:41,499
waste along the way I've heard people

1548
01:07:45,299 --> 01:07:43,089
say that one of the biggest crimes

1549
01:07:47,219 --> 01:07:45,309
against humanity the elite polled in the

1550
01:07:49,859 --> 01:07:47,229
last century was driving us into

1551
01:07:51,690 --> 01:07:49,869
agricultural ignorance that when we lost

1552
01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:51,700
the ability and knowledge to feed

1553
01:07:56,339 --> 01:07:53,979
ourselves we lost everything

1554
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:56,349
if you've ever just had a few fruit

1555
01:08:00,900 --> 01:07:58,720
trees on your property it is crazy how

1556
01:08:03,210 --> 01:08:00,910
much they yield but many of us have been

1557
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:03,220
so economically Fox that we can't afford

1558
01:08:08,759 --> 01:08:06,609
land for a couple fruit trees a show

1559
01:08:10,769 --> 01:08:08,769
like this does make me consider moving

1560
01:08:13,739 --> 01:08:10,779
back to the Midwest find some secluded

1561
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:13,749
acreage the Midwest being the only place

1562
01:08:17,220 --> 01:08:15,640
I could afford to do that and then

1563
01:08:19,499 --> 01:08:17,230
trying to resurrect from these old

1564
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:19,509
practices create Carl wood gardens and

1565
01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:22,960
get my alchemy on it's an idea but maybe

1566
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:24,819
some of these topics were inspiring to

1567
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:26,650
anyone looking to get off the grid or

1568
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:29,170
work towards a sustainable lifestyle

1569
01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:31,290
you might try some of these lost arts

1570
01:08:36,089 --> 01:08:33,699
it's funny because a big theme on the

1571
01:08:38,370 --> 01:08:36,099
higher side a few months ago was the

1572
01:08:40,919 --> 01:08:38,380
realms of secret science or hidden

1573
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:40,929
physics and some people sort of explain

1574
01:08:47,129 --> 01:08:44,319
it with torsion and counter rotation but

1575
01:08:49,410 --> 01:08:47,139
either physics really unlocks a lot more

1576
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,420
it also explains the alchemy concept way

1577
01:08:54,539 --> 01:08:52,000
better than it being just an analogy for

1578
01:08:56,669 --> 01:08:54,549
the spiritual path of enlightenment I do

1579
01:08:58,559 --> 01:08:56,679
kind of think putting it in that box is

1580
01:09:00,300 --> 01:08:58,569
a way of saying well I don't understand

1581
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:00,310
that so I'm just going to say it was all

1582
01:09:05,329 --> 01:09:03,130
symbolic and metaphorical and I'm sure

1583
01:09:08,249 --> 01:09:05,339
it can be that but I think the real

1584
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:08,259
alchemical science creates the basis for

1585
01:09:12,169 --> 01:09:10,089
there to be analogies about the

1586
01:09:15,019 --> 01:09:12,179
spiritual path not that it's primarily

1587
01:09:16,999 --> 01:09:15,029
metaphoric if that makes sense

1588
01:09:19,010 --> 01:09:17,009
either way I hope you liked this one

1589
01:09:20,539 --> 01:09:19,020
hopefully we didn't get too deeply under

1590
01:09:22,849 --> 01:09:20,549
the skin of listeners who have been

1591
01:09:25,099 --> 01:09:22,859
swept away in that alt-right crowd I

1592
01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:25,109
know that comes up mainly in the Plus

1593
01:09:30,289 --> 01:09:27,900
show that stuff but still it used to be

1594
01:09:31,729 --> 01:09:30,299
completely non-controversial to talk

1595
01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:31,739
about all the damage death and

1596
01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:33,750
destruction that came with European

1597
01:09:37,519 --> 01:09:35,400
expansion and the Inquisition and the

1598
01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:37,529
Nexus of royalty and the papacy and

1599
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:40,380
their various conquests but you know how

1600
01:09:43,729 --> 01:09:42,089
like you can talk [\h__\h] about your

1601
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,739
alcoholic brother and it's no big deal

1602
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:45,359
but when someone else does it it's like

1603
01:09:51,529 --> 01:09:48,690
whoa now dude a that is my family you're

1604
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:51,539
talking about there seems to be this new

1605
01:09:56,959 --> 01:09:54,719
attitude about European ancestors at

1606
01:09:59,060 --> 01:09:56,969
least around me we're talking about

1607
01:10:01,970 --> 01:09:59,070
their crimes is kind of like talking

1608
01:10:03,979 --> 01:10:01,980
[\h__\h] on my people bro I don't know it's

1609
01:10:06,140 --> 01:10:03,989
a weird type of thing that I've been

1610
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:06,150
seeing lately that's all

1611
01:10:10,910 --> 01:10:08,610
one positive semi-related thing I did

1612
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:10,920
here the other day was in reference to

1613
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:12,780
the Grand Canyon if you've ever been

1614
01:10:16,669 --> 01:10:14,400
there it's awesome it's pretty

1615
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:16,679
underdeveloped fairly undisturbed and

1616
01:10:21,470 --> 01:10:19,050
the story goes that a lot of folks

1617
01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:21,480
wanted to move in and put casinos and

1618
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:23,880
hotels and resorts all along the ridges

1619
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:26,610
of course they did and Roosevelt came in

1620
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:28,650
and said no we got to preserve this

1621
01:10:33,979 --> 01:10:31,650
place in fact the quote is pretty well

1622
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:33,989
known I think but what he actually said

1623
01:10:39,310 --> 01:10:37,290
was in the Grand Canyon Arizona has a

1624
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:39,320
natural wonder which is in kind

1625
01:10:43,729 --> 01:10:41,610
absolutely unparalleled throughout the

1626
01:10:45,979 --> 01:10:43,739
rest of the world I want to ask you to

1627
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:45,989
keep this great wonder of nature as it

1628
01:10:50,839 --> 01:10:48,719
now is I hope you will not have a

1629
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,849
building of any kind not a summer

1630
01:10:55,550 --> 01:10:53,280
cottage a hotel or anything else to Mar

1631
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:55,560
the wonderful grandeur the great

1632
01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:57,840
loneliness and beauty of the Canyon

1633
01:11:03,770 --> 01:11:01,320
leave it as it is you cannot improve on

1634
01:11:07,399 --> 01:11:03,780
it the ages have been at work on it and

1635
01:11:09,530 --> 01:11:07,409
man can only Mar it and that is amazing

1636
01:11:12,879 --> 01:11:09,540
really I only wish it applied to a few

1637
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:12,889
other locations in our system in general

1638
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:15,179
Native Americans probably didn't have it

1639
01:11:19,629 --> 01:11:17,489
perfect but can you imagine Western

1640
01:11:23,959 --> 01:11:19,639
masonry and technological and industrial

1641
01:11:26,959 --> 01:11:23,969
engineer oh boy land closed-circuit

1642
01:11:28,879 --> 01:11:26,969
electric and the Tesla's and the reich's

1643
01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:28,889
and the Thomas towns that browns were

1644
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:30,630
actually maximized to their fullest

1645
01:11:36,020 --> 01:11:33,840
potential imagine all that merging with

1646
01:11:37,550 --> 01:11:36,030
a synergistic relationship with the

1647
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:37,560
earth and environment engineered

1648
01:11:42,890 --> 01:11:39,510
abundance and a society embedded in

1649
01:11:44,839 --> 01:11:42,900
nature rather than paving over it and of

1650
01:11:46,910 --> 01:11:44,849
course a full exploration and

1651
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:46,920
implementation of the suppressed Natural

1652
01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:49,679
Sciences in either physics if we'd only

1653
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:52,230
just step back and assess the best

1654
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:54,449
elements of everything and remove the

1655
01:11:58,910 --> 01:11:56,610
roadblocks like the rockefeller oil only

1656
01:12:01,939 --> 01:11:58,920
policy and [\h__\h] it let's go for the gold

1657
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:01,949
a fiat currency clad debt based system

1658
01:12:07,459 --> 01:12:04,290
of rule imagine what life could really

1659
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:07,469
be like imagine if we could somehow

1660
01:12:13,310 --> 01:12:10,170
manage to implement those just five or

1661
01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:13,320
six tweaks it'd be different [\h__\h]

1662
01:12:17,630 --> 01:12:16,260
world guys it really would

1663
01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:17,640
and that's why we explore these things

1664
01:12:21,140 --> 01:12:19,500
you want to get an accurate idea of the

1665
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:21,150
playing field and how it's been worked

1666
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:23,130
against you not so you can have an

1667
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:25,170
excuse for your mediocre life and

1668
01:12:29,810 --> 01:12:27,870
pointless cog in a wheel job some people

1669
01:12:31,940 --> 01:12:29,820
do think that way oh well the school

1670
01:12:33,710 --> 01:12:31,950
system [\h__\h] me the rockefellers [\h__\h]

1671
01:12:36,860 --> 01:12:33,720
me and so that's why I work at White

1672
01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:36,870
Castle and why even try no it isn't

1673
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,820
about that it is about getting a handle

1674
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:41,040
on the landscape so you can navigate it

1675
01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:43,110
better and escape those traps and dig

1676
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:44,760
out of all those carefully crafted

1677
01:12:49,100 --> 01:12:46,050
trenches you can spend a lifetime

1678
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:49,110
trudging through it's not a fair system

1679
01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:50,850
but we do want to look at it honestly

1680
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:53,880
don't we a bit of a tangent but that's

1681
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:55,710
just one question I get a lot people say

1682
01:12:59,860 --> 01:12:57,450
how do you handle it do you ever get

1683
01:13:03,920 --> 01:12:59,870
defeated or depressed how do you go on

1684
01:13:05,660 --> 01:13:03,930
well I go on because [\h__\h] them quitting

1685
01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:05,670
the job they wanted me to have and

1686
01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:07,620
instead making a career out of exploring

1687
01:13:11,810 --> 01:13:09,270
things they've swept under the rug or

1688
01:13:14,150 --> 01:13:11,820
tried to suppress or lied about has been

1689
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:14,160
pretty [\h__\h] lucrative for me so I

1690
01:13:18,260 --> 01:13:16,050
guess I should thank them for giving me

1691
01:13:20,570 --> 01:13:18,270
so much material and regulating their

1692
01:13:22,820 --> 01:13:20,580
airwaves to things like Downton Abbey

1693
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:22,830
and Dance Moms but what does that have

1694
01:13:27,230 --> 01:13:25,440
to do with anything bring it back if you

1695
01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:27,240
like the first hour here and the second

1696
01:13:32,270 --> 01:13:29,630
hour sure Mangia near breaks down our

1697
01:13:34,370 --> 01:13:32,280
galactic positioning and magic ability

1698
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:34,380
the black crow and the stages of the

1699
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:37,410
Philosopher's Stone anti-aging studies

1700
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:39,810
in the alchemy connection Egypt's

1701
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:42,000
alchemy and life extension the different

1702
01:13:45,980 --> 01:13:44,640
philosophies of survival and then of

1703
01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:45,990
course the alt-right movement

1704
01:13:50,270 --> 01:13:48,390
nationalism and this whole thing being a

1705
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:50,280
product of the Beach State the strategy

1706
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:53,370
of tension and I agree with a lot of his

1707
01:13:58,880 --> 01:13:56,010
points in that area that's why I say you

1708
01:14:01,730 --> 01:13:58,890
can't get invested in either side and we

1709
01:14:04,490 --> 01:14:01,740
talked about early American pretty

1710
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:04,500
fringe interesting archaeological

1711
01:14:08,660 --> 01:14:06,660
discoveries that don't fit the official

1712
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:08,670
narrative things like pyramids in the

1713
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:11,130
Grand Canyon on earth Jesuit artifacts

1714
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:13,290
all fun stuff so when we're talking

1715
01:14:18,020 --> 01:14:15,570
about the geopolitical landscape and

1716
01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:18,030
Shema engineer says something like those

1717
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:20,460
Muslim laws they're going to be coming

1718
01:14:23,150 --> 01:14:21,360
out at some point

1719
01:14:25,730 --> 01:14:23,160
I should give him a little extra credit

1720
01:14:28,490 --> 01:14:25,740
because he said that before the travel

1721
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:28,500
ban controversy we recorded this a

1722
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:29,730
little before then and you

1723
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:31,110
can say that some of that applied for

1724
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:33,690
sure I just wanted to throw that out

1725
01:14:37,589 --> 01:14:35,580
there without having much else to say

1726
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:37,599
about any of that stuff

1727
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:39,130
because he should get a gold star for

1728
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:40,690
that but don't get too attached to any

1729
01:14:44,669 --> 01:14:43,090
particular worldview I would say and if

1730
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:44,679
everyone around you starts having the

1731
01:14:48,990 --> 01:14:46,960
same ideas maybe rethink where you're

1732
01:14:52,169 --> 01:14:49,000
getting them which goes for everyone

1733
01:14:55,109 --> 01:14:52,179
including me that said I love you guys

1734
01:14:57,359 --> 01:14:55,119
I'm just a simple stoner dropout not

1735
01:14:59,550 --> 01:14:57,369
really an expert in anything but I do

1736
01:15:01,109 --> 01:14:59,560
know some people who are so thanks for

1737
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:01,119
listening follow your dreams and keep

1738
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:03,610
your pimp and strong I've done my part

1739
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:06,159
your move secret science suppressors and

1740
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:07,840
dizziness knowledge destroyers and

1741
01:15:13,810 --> 01:15:09,730
agents of the alchemical foreign teams

1742
01:15:19,610 --> 01:15:17,000
lose the dreams are so vivid because you

1743
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:19,620
go to bed at 7:00 and your brain comes

1744
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:22,800
alive because uhm nine to five you wake

1745
01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:25,530
up with a dread and make sure your cat's

1746
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:28,200
bed did your brain talk to ghosts you

1747
01:15:33,250 --> 01:15:29,970
moved your coffee and a toast

1748
01:15:36,710 --> 01:15:33,260
as you listen to the higher side chat

1749
01:15:39,290 --> 01:15:36,720
you can't see you dust and your bosses

1750
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,300
it's a mess and your soul slowly girls

1751
01:15:44,660 --> 01:15:42,000
to a place when nothing gross when you

1752
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:44,670
think he's not around you insert a study

1753
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:49,170
sound the Oh whimpers turn it down and

1754
01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:53,330
you say it's just a higher side chat oh

1755
01:16:01,280 --> 01:15:56,270
do you think you'd be invited to

1756
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:01,290
Bohemian Grove to the DeBerg club oh do

1757
01:16:11,580 --> 01:16:05,820
you think you'd be invited by Rasta to a

1758
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:11,590
party on a submarine diving down

1759
01:16:17,580 --> 01:16:14,650
to the center of the earth to the

1760
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:17,590
Marianas Trench if teeth begin to clench

1761
01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:21,820
from the sulphureus stench the mask you

1762
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:26,350
give in doesn't fit because you lost one

1763
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:32,110
of them starting today you'll make plans

1764
01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:34,690
to get away there's no one to hold you

1765
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:37,420
down and the waters start to drown then

1766
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:40,480
you wake to the glare of a Coco resin

1767
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:43,090
stare and the light winks at you because

1768
01:16:47,900 --> 01:16:45,250
its life is almost through but it's

1769
01:16:51,950 --> 01:16:47,910
holding down to quit time just like you